Michelle Obama Interviewed 22-Year-Old Inaugural Poet Amanda Gorman For TIME

She recited "The Hill We Climb," a 5-minute original piece she penned specifically for the event, which spoke directly to current events and offered a message of hope for America's future:

And so we lift our gazes, not to what stands between us, but what stands before us.

We close the divide because we know to put our future first.

We must first put our differences aside.

We lay down our arms so we can reach out our arms to one another.

We seek harm to none and harmony for all.

Prior to that performance, the two women had actually met twice before — once in 2016 at a White House event for the National Student Poets program, and then again at a 2018 event for Black Girls Rock.

The pair's extensive conversation ranged from the inauguration itself to being a Black woman in the spotlight, and they also delved into how Gorman is handling being hailed as a symbol of hope for the nation.

"We’re living in an important moment in Black art because we’re living in an important moment in Black life," the 22-year-old poet replied. "Whether that’s looking at what it means politically to have an African-American President before Trump, or looking at what it means to have the Black Lives movement become the largest social movement in the United States."

She added that she's excited to live in this time and to absorb creations from Black artists she looks up to, but she's also excited that she's able to "create art and participate in that historical record" herself, as well.

Gorman admitted she's dealt with similar bouts of imposter syndrome, a person experiences a feeling of not being as competent as others might perceive them to be.

"Speaking in public as a Black girl is already daunting enough, just coming onstage with my dark skin and my hair and my race — that in itself is inviting a type of people that have not often been welcomed or celebrated in the public sphere," the young woman shared, adding that her speech impediment has also lead to serious feelings of self-doubt while speaking publicly.

"Our instinct is to turn to poetry when we’re looking to communicate a spirit that is larger than ourselves," she continued.

Gorman also shared that she pulled some inspiration for her inauguration poem from Obama's speech at the 2016 Democratic Nomination Convention in which she said, "I wake up every morning in a house that was built by slaves."

As she told Obama,

"When you’re first rocketed into a type of visibility, you’re trying to represent your best self without having the best resources... [Black women] are always walking this really tentative line of who we are and what the public sees us as. I’m handling it day by day. I’m learning that 'No' is a complete sentence. And I am reminding myself that this isn’t a competition. It’s me following the trajectory of the life I was meant to lead."

Gorman said that while she's currently still learning how to navigate fame and scrutiny herself, it's important to focus on the "big picture."

"You really have to crown yourself with the belief that what I’m about and what I’m here for is way beyond this moment," she continued. "I’m learning that I am not lightning that strikes once. I am the hurricane that comes every single year, and you can expect to see me again soon."

h/t: TIME